Does quoting from holy books in archaic language give people a (false!) feeling of authority over others?

Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.Does quoting from holy books in archaic language give people a (false!) feeling of authority over others?
thay seem to think so to me its just loads of jiberish so when are thay gowing to print it in proper english instead of all that ye oldie englishDoes quoting from holy books in archaic language give people a (false!) feeling of authority over others?
If you ask a question on sport, would it not make more sense if i told you the rules using the rule book rather than me just ranting and raving about anything?





That way peoples Holy Books are simply rule books on how to lead a thier lives.
Claiming arcane knowledge is an ancient - and pathetic - way of claiming power and/or prestige. Such pseuds are best ignored.
Yes. They like to tell you which paragraph and line it's on. I can do the same with the Playboy, Penthouse and Thomas the Tank at the same time. .
It certainly can for some, but I think the feeling of comfort is probably more common.


Moving away from Latin for services in the Catholic church was controversial, even if it made the rites more comprehensible.





I used regularly to pass a London church which had a large sign saying ';1662 used in all services';. I never quite dared ask them whether this was because they considered the theology of Cranmer to be unsurpassed, or because it was more religious to address God in Jacobean English.





This involves the whole area of ritual, and the sense of cohesion and well-being that it can engender, independently of the language being fully understood.





No one seeking to communicate with modern folk should be using the King James Bible. The English language has moved on since then. (Unless, and only unless, there is something about the sense of the words that really cannot be put any other way. This I doubt.)
I don't know. Let me try:





1. There came one day to Lord Omar, Bull Goose of Limbo, a Messenger of Our Lady who told him of a Sacred Mound wherein was buried an Honest Book.


2. And the Angel of Eris bade of the Lord: Go ye hence and dig the Truth, that ye may come to know it and, knowing it, spread it and, spreading it, wallow in it and, wallowing in it, lie in it and, lying in the Truth, become a Poet of the Word and a Sayer of Sayings -- an Inspiration to all men and a Scribe to the Gods.


3. So Omar went forth to the Sacred Mound, which was to the East of Mullah, and thereupon he worked digging in the sand for five days and five nights, but found no book.


4. At the end of five days and five nights of digging, it came to pass that Omar was exhausted. So he put his shovel to one side and bedded himself down on the sand, using as a pillow a Golden Chest he had uncovered on the first day of his labors.


5. Omar slept.


6. On the fifth day of his sleeping, Lord Omar fell into a Trance, and there came to him in the Trance a Dream, and there came to him in the Dream a Messenger of Our Lady who told him of a Sacred Grove wherein was hidden a Golden Chest.


7. And the Angel of Eris bade of the Lord: Go ye hence and lift the Stash, that ye may come to own it and, owning it, share it and, sharing it, love in it and, loving in it, dwell in it and, dwelling in the Stash, become a Poet of the Word and a Sayer of Sayings -- an Inspiration to all men and a Scribe to the Gods.


8. But Omar lamented, saying unto the Angel: What is this ****, man? What care I for the Word and Sayings? What care I for the Inspiration of all men? Wherein does it profit a man to be a Scribe to the Gods when the Scribes of the Governments do nothing, yet are paid better wages?


9. And, lo, the Angel waxed in anger and Omar was stricken to the Ground by an Invisible Hand and did not arise for five days and five nights.


10. And it came to pass that on the fifth night he dreamt, and in his Dream he had a Vision, and in this Vision there came unto him a Messenger of Our Lady who entrusted to him a Rigoletto cigar box containing many filing cards, some of them in packs with rubber bands around, and upon these cards were sometimes written verses, while upon others nothing was written.


11. Thereupon the Angel Commanded to Lord: Take ye this Honest Book of Truth to thine bosom and cherish it. Carry it forth into The Land and Lay it before Kings of Nations and Collectors of Garbage. Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their ways and repent. (HBT, Book of Explanations, Ch.1)





Hmm, not really. But it's easier than writing out an answer...perhaps I have struck upon something...
quoting from holy books in general seems to give ppl this sense of authority and superiority over others. in my opinion ppl should do their own thinking, and quote their own crap, then, only then they have all the right to have this false sense of ';authority'; over others, and maybe gain a little respect from ppl.
Vanitas, vanitatum, omnes es vanitas...
some times the translations do not give the meaning and in the ofitiol translations some times the persone who translate could hide somthings , i wander how moslems will translait this ( i coped that from quran sorat al tahreem التحريم 12 aya12 ) : وَمَرْيم ابْنَتَ عِمْرانَ الّتي أحصَنَت فَرْجَها فَنَفَخْنا فِيهِ


مِنْ رُوحِنا وَصَدَّقت بِكَلِماتِ رَبّها وَكُتُبهِ وَكانَتْ مِنَ الْقانِتين


it sayes that alla has blowed in marrys vgaina to berth jesuss


the polite translation for the world (فرج) (farj ) is vgaina , we cant say hear in the country i am in the world farj coz thats not polite





sorry for my bad english
I have heard plenty of people do the same with literature that they have memorized and don't try and understand. Whether they are in an archaic language or not (like Homer being in Greek) really has little to do with it. I think there are just a lot of people that memorize things and spout them out thinking it backs up what they are saying. At the same time there it is an effective tool to use other thoughts, be them biblical or literary to make ones point. Personally I am just as likely to quote modern culture as I am use, well the Bible in my case as a Christian. Well using quotations they don't understand may give some people a false sense of authority it also seems that going on Yahoo Answers and trying to demean people's beliefs gives others an equally false sense of authority.
No it just gives the feeling that your mentally challenged....
I don't know
Yes and another way is to stand on a cake tin, to get the extra 5 inches of authority.
Hello,





In my opinion its not so much that quoting such texts gives them a feeling of authority, more a sense of superiority perhaps?. Why! because they are hoping that by quoting from their holli texts or sacred book/s you the unbeliever will heard or see their trueth.





**I have been exploring my own spirituality for the last 27years %26amp; I have yet to meet any fundamentalist, or religious, or holli person that could convince me that their views would change my life for the better or enrich my being. Thus I have come full circle %26amp; back to being an Atheist.





**Such fundamentalists or people of faith feel a strong need to convince themselves %26amp; others of their views. This tends to suggest that they dont feel secure at a deep level in their so called beliefs.





In other words they quote texts to convince others %26amp; themselves of what they are trying to believe in, even if they know its not based on anything real or anything that would stand up to logical analysis or scientific methods of research. i.e. show me the actual evdience for what you believe in then? Dont just tell me its true because its written in a book.





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We praise Allah for the succour He has given us in carrying out His obedience and in preventing us from disobedience, and we ask Him to complete His favours (to us) and to make us hold on to His rope. We stand witness that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger. He entered every hardship in search of Allah's pleasure and





endured for its sake every grief. His near relations changed themselves for him and those who were remote from him (in relationship) united against him. The Arabs let loose the reins (of their horses to quicken their march) against him, and struck the bellies of their carriers to (rouse them) in fighting against him, so much so that enemies came to





his threshold from the remotest places and most distant areas.





I advise you, O' creatures of Allah, to fear Allah and I warn you of the hypocrites, because they are themselves misguided and misguide others, and they have slipped and make others slip too. They change into many colours, and adopt various ways. They support you with all sorts of supports, and lay in waiting for you at every lookout. Their hearts are diseased while their faces are clean. They walk stealthily and tread like the approach of sickness (over the body). Their words speak of cure, but their acts are like incurable diseases. They are jealous of ease, intensify distress, and destroy hopes. Their victims are found lying down on every path, while they have means to approach every heart and they have (false) tears for every grief.





They eulogise each other and expect reward from each other. When they ask something they insist on it, if they reprove (any one) they disgrace (him), and if they pass verdict they commit excess. They have adopted for every truth a wrong way, for every erect thing a bender, for every living being a killer, for every (closed) door a key and for every night a lamp. They covet, but with despair, in order to maintain with it their markets, and to popularise their handsome merchandise. When they speak they create doubts. When they describe they exaggerate. First they offer easy paths but (afterwards) they make them narrow. In short, they are the party of Satan and the stings of fire.





Satan hath gained hold on them, so he maketh them forget the remembrance of Allah; they are Satan's Party; Beware! verily, the party of Satan are the losers. (Qur'an, 58:19)